Notes from graduate seminar with Hilary Greaves and Tomi Francis on whether moderate (âhalf-heartedâ) or radical (âthoroughgoingâ) non-consequentialist moral theories are more plausible. The format seems to be a presentation with clarificatory questions for the first half of each class, and then substantive discussion on questions as decided by Slido votes.
I find it difficult to write emails sometimes, but I thought my permission email was good. (I basically just use this as a template for all graduate class permission emails.)
Hi Prof. Greaves,
I was wondering if Iâd be able to attend your class with Dr. Francis (CCâd) on moderate vs. radical non-consequentialism?
For background, Iâm a math & philosophy undergraduate; Iâve covered some connected issues in moral philosophy and decision theory in previous undergraduate and graduate classes, respectively. (I have access to the Canvas site, and Iâve read through the Week 1 notes.)
Thanks for your consideration!
Cheers, Oak
Week 1: Introduction
Pre-reading was a set of introductory notes that Hilary had written; a lot of it is fairly familiar material (âall of what you might cover in an undergraduate moral philosophy course, and a little bit more besidesâ), but we were promised that after this week there would be a gear shift into research-level material. So not many content-notes here.
I think there are plausibly non-welfare goods, and Iâm not sure what the principled line is for when something becomes non-consequentialist. Talked a bit with Tomi (who Iâd met before) in slightly more detail about ruling out âgimmickyâ consequentialized non-consequentialist theories; a working hypothesis is that it suffices to require that axiology is sufficiently objective (in particular, not time-relative and not agent-relative).
Submitted a question about whether expected-value consequentialism was really more action-guiding: I canât perfectly access what my evidence is (there are many failures of negative introspection, where I donât know that I donât actually know something), or what it says is best. We can follow objective rules like âAdd saltâ (without needing âDo what, for all you know, would add saltâ). It got four upvotes and went third (I considered upvoting my own question, but it wouldnât have changed how soon it went, so I didnât). I was going to include a disclaimer about how other arguments for EVC seemed better, but there wasnât enough space (and asking âCould other arguments work better?â seemed silly, as we saw a better argument in the pre-reading).
The better argument in question: the secondary norm generated by objective consequentialism doesnât actually match up with EVC, and EVC seems right where they conflict. (Suppose pill A has 1% chance to cure the patient fully, 99% chance to kill the patient painfully; pill B has 100% chance to cure the patient but give her a headache.) Sometimes the right thing to do, given what you know, is not the right thing to do all things considered.
Week 2: Linguistic Objection
Objections to the axiologistâs notions of betterness from ordinary language. Main pre-readings are Thomson (âThe right and the goodâ) versus Mankowitz (âGood people are not like good knivesâ), and there was a cool overview handout, too. Weâre interested in reasons for selective skepticism about betterness (by contrast with across-the-board skepticism of all moral notions). This did show me a new reading of âgood state of affairsâ (read like âgood knifeâ), but itâs just obviously not the surface reading (and both readings are pre-theoretically available).
Thomson
Thoimson on Moore:
- Mooreâs story:
- There is such a property as goodness
- There is such a relation of betterness (comparative goodness)
- Rightness is analyzable in terms of betterness (maximizing consequentialism)
- This leads to paradox of deontology (âif wrongs are so bad, why shouldnât you wrong to prevent them?â). Commonly, people will deny (3). But Thomson thinks we should deny (1):
- First-order (contrast second-order, but consider buck-passing account of goodness next week; first-order might also depend on something even lower) ways of being good have the form âgood + adjunctâ (ârice is good to eatâ).
- Second-order ways include virtue properties of acts and people (Xâs being good in virtue of Xâs being kind, just, etc.) And so moral requirement is derivative from virtue properties.
- Second-order ways ârest onâ first-order ways, especially on goodness for particular people, via virtue consequentialism: is people having trait X good for us? (But goodness for particular people might ground goodness simpliciter).
Greaves on Thomson:
- Ethics 101 picture includes consequentialism (bring about the best consequences), deontology (obey the rules), and virtue ethics (develop and manifest the virtues)
- Within virtue ethics, axiology could play two roles.
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- Foundational (which traits count as virtues rather than vices, or neutral traits): determined by whatâs conducive to the good. Or, better: which packages of traits count as virtues rather than vices (a murderer having courage would be bad).
- Content level: one of the virtues is beneficence (aiming to promote the good). But is it a virtue? Is it a matter of aiming to promote the good?
- But canât we give a similar account for goodness of states of affairs?
- What she says about non-designed things (Charles River) seems not to plausibly ground non-welfare goods (beauty, ecosystems, âŠ) in really non-welfarist terms; leaves open that if people waned the river to be polluted, it would be good for the river to so be. (We might take, say, plants to be designed via evolution by natural selection.)
Mankowitz
- Historically, people (Aristotle, Kant, and Moore) do think there is a non-relativized notion of goodness.
- Standard linguistic tests tell us that âgoodâ is polysemous between a moral and non-moral sense. (So moral good is parallel to good-knife-goodness.)
- Contradiction test:
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- This book is light, but it isnât light.
- Bobby Fisher is a (good chess player), but he isnât a (good) (chess player).
- Independent lexical relations:
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- âDarkâ is an antonym for one sense of âlightâ, but âheavyâ is an antonym for the other.
- âEvilâ is an antonym for one sense of âgoodâ, (but perhaps âpoorâ is an antonym for the other?).
- Etymologically, both moral and non-moral âgoodâ are from Old English âgodâ (so polysemy, rather than homophony as with âbankâ from Early Scandinavian âbannkeâ versus âbankâ from Middle French âbankeâ).
(Interesting to note that âpersonâ in various language sometimes seems to have a moral sense and a non-moral sense, by contrast with âhumanâ.)
For the relativized notion to do any work (itâs good to water the plants if you want them to live), you need to discharge the antecedent (i want them to live; so, itâs good to water the plants). But we can just understand non-relative good on the model of âitâs good to Xâ with no (or a trivial) antecedent.
Week 3: Aggregation
Objections to utilitarianism:
Container: It sounds like the utilitarian only cares about this abstract âtotal utilityâ score, and so only cares about people as âcontainersâ of welfare. Double-Counting: We double-count âreasonsâ, when we consider both the first-order natural facts about goodness-for-people and the [distinct] second-order evaluative facts about goodness (which obtain in virtue of the first-order natural facts obtaining). Redundancy: If you donât double-count, then thereâs no reason to talk about goodness.
Notice that the weighing hueristic for reasons is flawed (Williamsonâs numbers example).
A general response:
Overall betterness arises when we consider trade-offs. âFrom an impartial point of view, considerations of individualsâ welfare, taken together and appropriately weighed against one another when they conflict, favor x over y.â
Finite fixed-population utilitarianism might generalize, on necessitism, to give utilitarian (in particular, totalist) verdicts in variable-population cases. But we could also just modify the axioms (itâs not immediately obvious that merely-possible people have welfare level zero, though I think this is quite plausible). But in infinite-welfare (divergent total welfare) cases, we have some impossibilitity theorems (e.g., Amanda Askell). Unsure how infinite-subjects-but-convergent-welfare-sum goes!
The weighted-coin people in the rock case seem like the sort of people who would flip a weighted coin to predict the outcome of a weighted coin. (Nevermind, actually, really good point from Tomi: give everyone an equal chance of being the first person to be saved; then it just so happens that the five are lucky enough to be saved along with any of the others from the five.)
Tomiâs framing of the container objection is quite good: there is no point of view of the universe which really matters, you canât go beyond what matters for individuals.
(Hilary raised her hand for thinking Partiality is more plausible than Save More Rather Than Less; this was really surprising to me!)
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